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Postby TranceFusion » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:04 am

Uffff a lot of reading i have here!
I read some lines in every post so i'm guessing about the whole rest :)
There are pros and cons in every topic. Softwares have pluses and minuses, hardware has also.
Just like Raneem said, softwares are supposed to make things easier. Isn't it the purpose of the evolution of technology? There are people thinking of building a computerized house so that humans don't even bother of moving their hands! (off-topic example :P but you get the point :wink:) That's where I'm against it... there are things that shouldn't be made easier so that we give them the appreciation they deserve! Although I have no knowledge in mixing whether it is software or hardware, I do prefer the hardware because it gives this image of the DJ using all this equipment and the vinyls/cds and pushing/moving buttonsas if he's creating music. What would he be doing with a laptop? Just move the mouse and click. Ravers wouldn't see him moving whether they are in the back or the front (i don't even think he would be able to interact with the crowd as much as now)... where's the appreciation in that? None in my opinion. Yep, software makes life easier, but i give my preference to the hardware by far! And yes, creativity is important whether DJing or producing :) I also prefer headphones to earphones :roll:
I know that there's always change taking place and that we should change too, but for the sake of the whole "DJ magic", I'd stick to the hardware and I'd defend it if I were a superstar DJ :)
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Postby Icepick » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:44 pm

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Postby Trancelvania » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:00 pm

One hell of an interresting topic :D

Maybe I could give my own experience regarding this topic and then discuss things a bit further to make it clear...

I used both softwares and hardwares in mixing and I find a lot of differences between them although they both have advantages and disadvantages.
- The good thing about softwares is their more advanced technology compared to hardwares and having some extra options which in most of the cases make mixing kinda easier than using a hardware, it also has a huge screen in front of you (example of a laptop) so you can actually have a full view of what you are doing and can figure out the best way for mixing ur songs by looking at their structure, breaks, beats, keys, and alot more...
But on the other hand, the negative things about them is IMO not having the real "Live feeling" of DJing...You cannot really interact with your crowd the same way you do with hardwares, you cannot actually turn some nodes, a jog wheel and bang the Cue button, hell yeh! when using softwares those feelings are completely dead, how can you see a DJ being hyper on the DJ Booth by using a mouse and doing some clicks here and there, which will actually force him to look at the Laptop screen (and not on the crowd like what happens with a hardware)!?
Can you actually play with the EQs by having the same precision on a laptop? I don't think you actually can!

Raneem you mentioned that in the near future all hardwares will dissapear and turn into softwares, and I'd like to say something regarding this issue...
First of all do you consider a CD player having a small screen with the tracks display and information a hardware, a software or a blend of both? Cause I personally consider it a blend of both, and that's exactly what I guess the future equipments will become (offcourse in a more advanced way), because an ordinary laptop cannot do the job IMO, but maybe a special laptop for DJing (that wil maybe appear later would, and which I will also consider a blend of both a hardware and software one), which will probably have a speciall keyboard on it, maybe some nodes here and there, and some buttons for effects, and offcourse the huge screen infront of you!...

and Crow you mentioned that you cannot afford equipments for "live DJing" but you can actually afford software for the same purpous...But I guess the cheapest softwares out there are no less than 500$, that's by excluding the laptop's price...so it's not a matter of price actually but of being more comfortable...that's it...
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Postby AnT-1 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:50 pm

Each has a point here, perfectly clear and true, but the thing is if u view the thing of djing on a laptop as UNPROFESSIONAL, this is absolutely wrong. As you know the cds u put in the decks output 16 bit quality MAX, while on ableton you can output a signal of 32 bit depth! although not all mixers can output a 32 bit depth. pioneer can output 24 bit depth, some products of xone can, the rest i don't know..

as for the software that automix, that's absolutely null,

but if you dont use the sync functions and so on and u configure your output for cueing on ur headphones and find it right to mix and mix it ur own thats good for practicing and getting the idea and i find it cheap even though the laptop or pc costs 1500 $ but its already there! and u cant see my topic if u dont have a pc! so a 300 $ or a crack :P would be your cheapest cure

as for big scene results! if u combine the good side of using a laptop and dex and turntables together it would be gr8, u'll still have the nobs feel

as PVD's Xone 3d, and other's djm 800 there are MIDI controllers that put the feel and the easiness for using the software instead of 2 mouse controllers:P or tons of keyboard shortcuts!

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Postby A-Cube » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:44 pm

wont even comment on what has been just written...so whats next u ll mix on ur laptop while instant messaging with ur friends???...& i dont believe wikipedia is the best place 2 seek the meaning of the word DJ...from the way u r puttin it i m believin that DJing is slowly dying(since my definition of DJing is much wider than the way u put it)...be more open-minded & go 2 the roots of DJing b4 commentin on what i m talkin about...no one said DJs shouldnt follow up with the developments but that doesnt mean that DJs must become slaves of the machines...


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Postby kevo21 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:58 pm

guys guys guys shu is there gonna be a fight or something take it easy!
well im not a dj but i like and dont mind abt the softwares!i think it helps the djs start there way or lets say like a push!
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