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clubless clubers joy

Posted:
Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:24 pm
by PLUR
well my name is PLUR as u all know me from my last post and those who dont know dont better and better less head for both...
anyways...im here today to post a quick post i was wondering about while i was working ...and right now im still working....
im wondering do we have AN ELECTORNIC DANCE SCENE.
or we are bunch of clubless clubbers ....i dont want to say much coz i dont want my post to be edited again...
fill me in and let me know
i will continue i have a phone call:) and i have to bounce .....
ciaoz
i hope u all enjoyed VIT2
PEACE LOVE UNITY and RECPECT...

Posted:
Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:17 pm
by TRANCExual
It's something in between. Ofcourse we do not have this electronic dance scene like the one in europe, but we rn't clubless clubbers too. Why would 7500 clubbers pay 26$ for pvd if they dont have the passion for dance/electronic music?.
The dance scene is growing day by day, year by year, especially during this summer (2005). For example I know many ppl who were into rap/rnb, after going to pvd's event many of them asked me for trance cds.
The lebanese clubbers taste in music is a minor problem, but the major problem is the Lebanese clubs!! How many clubs play electronic muzik? 3 maybe 4. People are afraid to open clubs which play EDM only. To have this big dance scene we need big events and big clubs too, not just BO and basement.

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:03 am
by DIONYSOS
We do have a growing EDM scene; more people are becoming drawn by the various sub-genres of EDM as time goes by due to two reasons: the first being the natural global cycle of everything "cool" getting exported from the west to the east, and the second being the increasing number of events that are being held on Lebanese soil.
A third and very major factor that is alas missing in Lebanon is airplay support: no radio station is dedicated to underground EDM; perhaps MixFM broadcasts the only respectable Trance show in the nation, and is a successful event organizer for EDM DJs, but we all know that radio stations in general and local ones in particular are much more money-driven than music-oriented. I will not elaborate further on this point so as to avoid the same editing you received!
Moreover, the vast majority of local clubs play nothing but commercial music and seem to have a unmistakable radar that immediately tracks down any non-commercial track and ban it; that is surely damaging to EDM and to the image of our club scene. If radio stations are more money-driven than music-oriented, local clubs are purely money-oriented. The only EDM genre that receives club support is House, and contrasted with the support that commercial music receives, it is quite minimal.
One last aspect that needs the most work in my opinion is the people: enough with gangster-wannabes, enough with air-headed girls who only dance to arabic shit, enough with self-proclaimed clubbers who define clubbing as dressing sharp and spending cash, enough with DJs playing all sorts of musical styles in one night ranging from HipHop to Arabic to commerical House to 5 Tiesto tracks in a row with the first track being re-played once again at the end of the "Tiesto marathon" only to end up mixed in with Hayfa's latest hit. Enough! It's time for an "awakening" as one fellow website calls it.
Improvement is taking place at what once was a slow pace but is not slightly accelerating, but much work needs to be done: more underground music support from radio stations and clubs, more emerging DJs that are dedicated to one specific EDM style, and more open-minded individuals willing to experiment with their musical taste and not just pop champagne bottles over the theme from Rocky. One of our aims at TH is to spread this great music that we are so passionate about and consequently to mold the Lebanese clubbing scene into one that is worthy of pride from our side and of admiration by western exposure. But you cannot clap with one hand: drastic change needs to be implemented on all 3 levels of the forces that drive what Lebanon listens to: radios, clubs, (both including DJs) and the crowd.
Sorry if I allowed my tongue to run loose, but it needed to be said... I hope I answered your enquiry.

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:12 am
by Aleco

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:17 am
by CmA

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:23 am
by TRANCExual

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:16 am
by DIONYSOS
*fully agrees with charbel & ziad*

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:58 am
by samer
ermmm now the question is:
do we have AN ELECTORNIC DANCE SCENE
my answer is definitely yes!! and a living example is us!! TH.com is a living proof of a growing Electronic Dance Scene! VIT-II and it's attendants were the result of such existence!
now we still dont have a BIG scene.. it's still in its infant stages.. but it's there we only need to cherich and support it! with us all working hand in hand we can make it bigger and bigger


Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:22 am
by AMADEUS
I will clear out things about that issue which is ever in your mind PLUR and some few people who might think the same way, so that you relax and chill, and maybe stop having doubts and questions about the Lebanese Electronic dance scene.
This type of underground movement started booming in Lebanon in the mid 90's. Very logical and excellent timing considering the long years of war we had few years back. A lot of successfull parties were done at the famous clubs Crazy, Bo18, the old Orange Mechanic and at a later stage Strange Fruit, Hectic, Fubar, Fleur Platine, Atlantis and others....
Later on eyes were wide open on the Lebanese scene by international djs and booking managements and agencies. Starting with Anthony Pappa in 2002 the real international big events kicked off with an unexpected number of 1,500 clubbers, leaving the door wide open for more djs to come and explore this new scene on the map and the successful huge gigs started coming with djs like Steve Lawler, Nick Warren, Danny Howels, Sander Kleinenburg, Paul Oakenfold (2 times with 2000 clubbers), George Acosta, Sasha (3500 clubbers), John Digweed (3000 clubbers), PVD (2 times with total of 12,000 clubbers) Above and Beyond, Mark Norman, Tall Paul, Marco V, The Bikaa Valley and very soon Ferry Corsten.
On the local level, many successful events were organized last year and this summer like VIT by trancehits.com, the psychedalic gigs by psy-cult along with the regular nights at Basement, Bo18, Orange Mechanic and Art Lounge. It's not bad for a city in the size of Beirut to hold out 4 or 5 electronic clubs. I don't see the need for more especially that in Lebanon where we always had the advantage to organize lots of outdoor events.
Keeping in mind the bad incidents that happened from October till July, and look at the Scene, instead of dying it's growing more and more. This country is graced and blessed with its fun loving people!
Also adding to all this the new movement of forums that are dedicated to electronic music and clubbing events.
So PLUR i think you know all about this and I wonder what's the definition of an Electronic Dance Scene in your own words... I think the word "Aliens" should be involved in this definition or maybe you like the famous word "Chaos"; this word which has ever been the satisfaction for many naggers and losers...
The scene in Lebanon is in it's best forms and in constant growth and let's keep on working hard and supporting it instead of losing time and wondering around.

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:19 am
by samer
^AMEN

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:50 pm
by DJ_TRACID

Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:35 pm
by Roland
AMADEUS 100% True


Posted:
Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:56 pm
by bxtreme

Posted:
Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:07 am
by CmA

Posted:
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:45 am
by pTq
PLUR this summer lebanon has witnessed an unbelievable progress in the amount of events happening ... and i think you know that pretty well yourself
anyways totally with you AMADEUS million %