NEW Pioneer DJ Mixers!!!

[maDJam]

http://www.pioneerprodjforums.com/ubbth ... ber=133148



PIONEER’S DJM-800 IS WORLD’S FIRST 96KHZ/24 BIT MIXER THAT CAN HARMONICALLY MIX AND REMIX
USING SOUND COLOR EFFECTS

ANAHEIM (January 19, 2006) – The DJM-800 mixer introduced at NAMM today by Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. gives professional DJs the tool they need to expand their musical horizon, with capabilities for mixing records, remixing, producing and performing. Pioneer’s DJ mixers have a reputation for providing high quality audio and reliability. The new DJM-800 incorporates features recommended by many professional DJs and club engineers, raising the bar on sound fidelity and ease of mixer operation. Most important are its high quality 96kHz/24 bit sampling and harmonic mixing capabilities.

High Quality Audio
The analog signal from the player passes through the shortest signal route, first digitized at 96kHz / 24bit through a pro A/D converter where it reaches the digital mixing stage with the best sound possible. The mixing is carried out by 32bit DSP with minimal deterioration of sound quality. A highly rigid chassis minimizes unnecessary vibration, which could adversely affect sound quality. The mixer also incorporates a dual-shield structure for eliminating entry of digital noise and a high performance power supply for noise-free power.

Sound Color Effects For A New Style of DJ Mixing
The world’s first DJ mixer with Auto Harmonic Tuning detects the key of song and automatically corrects it to the closest true key. In music theory terms, when a DJ raises the pitch of a song in the key of C by three percent, the song is no longer in the key of C, but somewhere between C and C sharp. This makes it impossible to perform a perfect harmonic mix. Pioneer’s new Harmonic Tuning feature takes the key of the source audio and adjusts the pitch until it is that of a standard note.

Of course a DJ still has to know some basics about music, such as which keys match, in order to pull off an acoustically perfect harmonic mix. World class DJs currently spend thousands of hours learning the keys of their music and re-mastering their library to be in “perfect pitchâ€

[DIONYSOS]

I'd have to agree with maDJam there, I personally wasn't all too impressed with the 1000, so I think Pioneer cleaned it up neatly with this 800. Perhaps the most striking feature, to me at least, would be the emphasis Pioneer opted to place on Harmonic Mixing, which to me is the next step in the natural evolution of our craft.

Thanks a lot for always keeping us updated with the latest hardware maDJam, much appreciated mate!

N.B.: So you own an Allen & Heath? I'm a total sucker for their mixers! Just out of curiosity, would you mind sharing some pictures of your DJ setup? Thanks in advance!

[Trancelvania]

nice review mate! I dun't really understand yet in those stuff!
But i'm really willing to learn DJing this summer.

[3aly]

Pioneer also introduced thier djm-400 for any of those that are interested...

[maDJam]

[Roland]

[3aly]

ANAHEIM (January 19, 2006) – Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. today introduced a new two-channel mixer with the world’s first in-loop sampler and provided demonstrations at the NAMM show at the Anaheim Convention Center. The new mixer matches Pioneer’s CDJ-200 CD turntable in both function and design, allowing DJs to expand the range of DJing and remixing. Its new symmetrical design is the same size as a CDJ-200 enabling an easy fit in a compact DJ coffin.

World’s First In-Loop Sampler
An intelligent 96kHz/24bit sampler automatically detects the tempo of a song during playback, sampling it for a length of 4 beats; then loops the sample. Since the sampled sound is in sync with the beat of the tune being played, no matter the tempo, it enables live remixing like never before. Samples are automatically stretched and compressed to match the beat. The DJM-400 will store five samples onboard.

“The combination of the new DJM-400 with the CDJ-200 is a great combination for pro DJs looking for a great entry-level system,â€

[DIONYSOS]

[3aly]

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[bxtreme]

sweet! i saw this at LR a few days ago, and was about to post it here! thanks for the info madjam...

the only feature on this mixer thats a world's first on a mixer is probably the harmonic mixing capabilities...

heres what i wrote on LR.. too lazy to comment again

with my knowledge of harmonic mixing, im guessing that this mixer uses software emulation to detect the harmonic keys of tracks.. there are certain applications here and there that do that but they are not always right, so its always better to find the key of a track manually, using a keyboard, or some other instrument.. however, knowing pioneer, i guess the mixer will provide better results than other software made by smaller companies.. anyhow.. moving on.. i think the mixers layout is kick ass! knobs are big, buttons are well lit, the effects lcd screen is clear and to the point... finally, the addition of MIDI will make it a killer mixer, a plus for any ableton fans out there...

[Nino]

i hotest mixer Ever what the FUCK !! wow
it will look hot with my Cdj200 and my Cdj100mk2;)wohoooooooooo
anyway know how much it cost?

[maDJam]

everyone has their opinion, so.... after using allen & heath for over 2 years now, pioneer's mixers have been a let-down. The EFX-500 I have is over 6 years old and still sounds great... the CDJ-1000s and 7 year old CDJ-100s all work perfectly as well, but once your spoiled with the allen &heath's features, pioneer is just (n) too elementary now....

time for the upgrade? and along comes the DJM-800 (for the DJM-600 replacement) and the DJM-400 (for the DJM-300 replacement)

the 400 is no good since it only has two channels, and I think ANYONE who wants to buy a mixer should think about the 3rd source (as most of us are using a 3rd player for external effect return or an acapella to blend into the mix)

the 800 is missing:
-mono switch for the booth monitor.. but good to see they finally switched the DJ booth monitor from RCA to 1/4" inch jack connectors.
-4th band eq and kills
-aux send (instead of just ON/OFF through the effect selector)
-secondary headphone terminal (the Xone:92 has two headphone connectors so you can swap headphones or pass one onto your girlfriend while mixing)
-filters... not an automatic one in the built-in effects.. but a manual one to "blend" your tracks together rather than just mix.

I would def like to check out the "harmonizer" but I can imagine changing the pitch of any track would result in dropping the sound quality.

okay, let's have your opinions

[DIONYSOS]

Well it is undoubtable that when it comes to mixers, Allen & Heath outperform any competitor in the industry, just as the MK2's outperform any other CD player. But the leap from 600 to 800 is worth mentioning; the 800 may still not live up to an Xone but it sure owns the 600, and does indeed offer some new innovative features that can't be found on even the Xone:3D, such as that harmonizer for example. But I surely wouldn't go as far as proclaiming the new 800 as the supreme ruler of today's DJ mixers as its advantages, though significant, are nonetheless outweighted by what A&H offer; besides, even if Pioneer has stuffed in all sorts of new and unheard of features, I still wouldn't jump to any conclusions before actually testing their efficiency, or having an expert do that, especially with A&H mixers having proven themselves in such an unmatched manner lately.

As for the 400, I found that for a basic "bottom of the line" mixer it's pretty decent, its "luxury" features can hardly be found in other 2-channel mixers in such an introductory price range, and I believe it serves as the perfect initiator for beginner DJs who are still at their early phases of their career with its elemental features that don't lack anything a bedroom DJ needs to get started in addition to some cool FX that could spice up his learning process... I'd just wouldn't place it at a club, especially if the club tends to host professional DJs and|or internationally-acclaimed ones.

Bottom line is: good job Pioneer, the 800 is a step forward, but still one step behind from Allen & Heath, while the 400 would be (to me at least) as good as a 2-channel mixer can get.

[bxtreme]