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Postby Genesis » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:35 pm

what does trance need to become more popular in lebanon?
k, sounds silly to ask. but if the lebanese can rap, they definitly can 'trance' as well. when i left leb there was a freak who raps, had an album, had a clip, and i suppose made money (apparently). i didnt understand it back then: how can someone rap in lebanese and ppl accept it? yet they can't (or might not) accept dance music (no lyrics at least, nobody makin fun of himself by lookin freaky or singin crap like rap)
before i go on, i'm sorry for bashin rap (for rap fans around here) and sorry for talkin bout the guy like that (if any of his fans r around)..so apologies granted..
when he 1st came up with his clip, i was laughin so hard: it was new, the lyrics were..dunno..just doesnt make sense..a random selection of words for a thesaurus.. soon i coped with the idea of other music genres on TV/radio (despite how pure or commercial it might be) i guess it's part of being lebanese to make fun of everything, no offence, i'm a lebanese myself.. but we dont take things like that seriously. too bad sometimes our relatively open minded parameters of thinkin sometimes clash to walls of ignorance and denial (no generalizing intended on both sides of the argument: we'r not all open minded nor r we all blocked out).. if all what we care for is sex and looks, then we can simply blend trance with those. if its ''cool'' (i hate this word a lot!) to be a trancer rather than a rapper, then we can make it look so. we're not dummies. we have will to do it, but all what we need imo is some support. but hey! all DJs came from their bedrooms 1st, all their productions came after years of money savin and ups and downs. financially, its cheaper to launch a dance video than a Haifa Wehbe video. if a bitch can pretend to sing by moanin on a mic and make money from that, then a young chab busting his arrse for hours in his bedroom to comeup with some mentally creative also should have a go. further more, he should be more recognized since his effort is individualistic. for labels (that i believe non of the existing ones is mature enough to adopt trance) its really cheap to film a dance video, u can have short clips of random selection, or a cartoon video, a cut from a club where ppl r dancing, and if u really want it complicated: an animation video and high resolution graphics can just do it..the beautiful thing in trance is that u understand it from ur own perspective, makin it a hugely satisfying genre of music rather than gettin ur brain stuck in the lyrics of arabic or any other vocal genre and decode them with ur imagination. in other words, ur limited by what the singer chants, not by what u want to understand, something which trance eliminates. a tune can be distressing in the mornin and euphoric in the evenin dependin on ur mood.. maybe its those who listen to that bag of shiite and buy the albums r givin the so-called artists a chance to make money by that and encourage their crap. maybe its us bein facinated by looks and women and clips (like RnB or hiphop full of black arrses swippin the camera lenses). sex sells. but we should be more dimensional. lets not try to pollute trance or trick ppl to like it through sex... (though this might not relate a lot; but like that completely retarded video of 'Call on me'..the tune is crap, but made it to #1 here coz there's women with g-strings and pumpin boobs in it...what a disgrace..what happened to music?..)

so what have we got for trance?
1) we have the DJs..i actually dont know a lot of them, but with amadeus on the top of the list and his name on flyers side to side with top names from PvD to Sasha goin
through to A&B and Corsten soon...and still yet to come...heard of Saeed Mrad and Guy Manokian (excuse my dictation mistakes) and remixes for Oum Kolthoom or maybe fairouz (which is a 'phenomena' i dont support at all)..i honeslty dont count those two (or others alike) as a trance or even dance DJs/producers. so i'll just stick to amadeus for the time being voted #1 in leb which is not fair enough for what he's doin for the scene.

2) mixfm is a great influencing factor with its trancy shows, and the DJs that have been to lebanon have been nowhere else in the region (i suppose appart from Egypt & UAE as arabs and of course Israel) even if they've been somewhere else, i guess we were ahead in queue.

3) we have plenty of venues. k not REALLY great ones, but its way better than not havin any at all as in some countries of the region. at least we have a scene that is really healthy and lebanon is being mentioned in top mags and DJ interviews who have been there. moreover, some DJs have shown their will to spin in Lebanon but still the right contacts hadnt come in.

4) there definitly is a struggling producer somewhere usin some software (or hardware doesnt really matter) tryin to come up with something. but sadly he might by faced by total disappointment and frustration. it's a struggle.

5) mix fm's DJ school. just stunning.point

what do we need as a 'push'? i think the following r necessary or at least should be considered if it was up to me:
1) production.. we need productions. if we can put our names on a tune and mark it as a 'lebanese work' it would be more than great. many producers dont DJ (like The Digital Blond/Ricky Smith) and vice versa.. i understand the financial burden of it, but m only targeting the will and creativity to do it basically.

2) record label..which is the other side of production process. we need one. only trance record label. not one of those scumbags..futher more, it doesnt have to be a lebanese label: if a producer can make it good enough to any european label then that's grant! u can make ur own label in ur bedroom, burn ur tune, sell it by urself to local music shops after designin a proper cover.

3) video/audio: a trance video can be made at home using a decent PC and 3Dmax or other software. money is no excuse for not 'filming' a trance video. however, the words -trance and video- are rarely compatible enough in one sentence. i only wanted to mention it to show how cheap it is to make a dance video (with the prescence of the necessary imagination and if a video is to be considered). i'm an anti-video trancer. i hate trance on TV, but if that's the way to feed it into the lebanese brain (which is through eyes, thank's to our materialistic obession). trance on TV is commercial by nature..i hope it wont be by content.u wont need women or whatever good lookin ppl or shootin scenes.
as for audio: well... i once suggested while chattin to Johnny to bang the radio at night with recorded sets and trance tunes from like 2am and on..but he said they dont do that. he named mixfm shows (that i have to be honest and say they rnt few at all). but if we can start at least by a 'trance day' once a week or twice a month? to add more options, lets not make it only trance..so we can add more options for listeners..how about 'dance day' or somethin like that?..if it was up to me, i'd have a dancefm... too bad it's not.. we cant bang trance into everybody's ear and freak them out, still though, we can give doses (higher than those we'r already giving) and encourage more ppl to join the evolution..

4) simply more lebanese DJs.. so amadeus can feel some cometition :p no seriously, trance is huge. its so wide. i know, money and opportunities r the basic problem. but have we the will? if yea, then materialistics wont stand a chance. have we a go for it? or would we be only talkin, sighing, and fantasizing about it? is it a dream we'r so obsessed about to copy to life?

5) more psy (actually that's not necessary, but i have to say 'psy' in almost every post and i think i didnt yet)..u know?...yea...more psy..not only psy..lets just move on from melodic, progressive and uplifting trance a bit. what happened to ambient, goa, and hard trance? r we that protective for our ears? we r intellegent enough to understand it i suppose..anyway, the topic is about trance as a whole, dont want to drive it towards the 'psy vs melody' discussion i always lead. (yea and btw, i always win that discussion 8) *up yours* huh!)

how do u see it? what do u think of our scene?

PS: all what i said about the lebanese ppl is a personal opinion. as i said, im lebanese myself..and not offence was intended to anyone..no hard feelings..
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Postby bxtreme » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:25 pm

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Postby samer » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:34 pm

Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
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Postby Proof » Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:45 am

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Postby Roland » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:48 am

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Postby divine_mz » Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:26 pm

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Postby System.S » Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:38 pm

Its good to keep it underground but they way it is in Leb its..... Buried, too deeply underground :)

So it needs a push, we just need to get recording Labels that can produce/export our art works + we need more club owners to import TRANCE more often to their business scenes.

I see it growing, slowly, but its growing fine.

Regarding the listsners, they will be born with time, its just a matter of music education and that is the JOB of DJ's, to educate the crowd and transplant the music into their soul.

For example, when i spin here, tons of freaks come over the DJ and ask for some RnB tracks or somethin different to Trance, i say NO SORRY.
And when Trance freaks ask for some TRANCE tunes, i do tell them: wait and listen because i will be takin you them into a nice trance night, so let ur self be and trust me for this night only and let me help you discovering new tracks/new songs, new worlds.

Some of them get pissed ( the fake trancers ) but most of them listen and release them selves to the DJ and at the end, they are more then satisfied and they ask for the track names that has been played.

SO my point from all this is that DJ's should educate their crowd and build in them the true image of trance, DJ's should not go commercial and play a lot of the requests, because requests = routine, routine will not help you to go forward.

That is the policy i am following here and it is workin so great :)
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Postby bxtreme » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:01 pm

SystemS, once again, you cant spin Trance to people who came for the other type of music! As a DJ, an entertainer, you are expected to give them what they came for, if its an RnB crowd, you're playing in the wrong club, for the wrong crowd! Amadeus, for example, can't randomly go to a club in Monot and surprise everyone by dropping one trance tune after another!

So, yeah, u cant really feed trance into their mouths if they are starving for some Rap tunes :P
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Postby System.S » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:14 pm

OF course dude, walaw
how would u spin TRANCE for HIP HOP freaks.

When u throw a gig u should make sure everyone knows wat kind of music u gonna play.
Akid u cant play Trance for Crowd that wants RnB.

i dont understand why u said wat u just said :?

If your a Trance DJ why would u spin at an RnB event anyway
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Postby Aleco » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:22 pm

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Postby Proof » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:34 am

At this moment, i find the situation with music in lebanon a bit funny. Like...everyone's a wanna-be something.

Wanna-be Rappers: These guys dress up with FUBU and Rocawear and all thuggish (should be called "tug"-ish, lol) ... can't speak a proper sentence in english without going "ze" or "yo". Just cause eminem's white doesn't mean that they can rap as well. Eminem's still in denial that he's white....he still can't believe it :) . Hopefully, they'll grow up and stop thinkin they're all that cuz they're going no-where with that. Well, actually...stay there...i dont want those fuckers to go to Trance and ruin that as well.

Wannabe Rockers: *sigh* ... what can i say, skateboards...long hair...and oh yeah, druggies. Stupid fucks. Okay, some may have some talent and i respect that, but the wanna-be one's who buy a guitar, can't play for shit...wont even bother learning it...wants to make a band when he/she doesn't know a how to play a single song. I've ran up to some ppl like that...they go "Laaaa....u know how to play Dream "seat"ter? Yeaa DOOOD!" ... lol, seriously....stfu

Wannabe Trancers: haven't ran into any...but i could imagine 'em to be like this. Nodding they're head so rhetorically that it doesn't sync wit the simple 4/4 beat. :D hahaha....

yeah...so thats my thinkin of wanna-be's "genre" ... still more to come, but this is good enough for now.


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Postby DJ_TRACID » Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:16 pm

i know ppl who hear that "Cocaine" techno music and they think that's trance i hate it and some have heard those cheesy euro-trance music and had bad impression abt it, they think that's TRANCE not knowing the GOOD QUALITY TRANCE
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Postby Proof » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:31 am

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- Alter Breed - Blue White (Praveen Achary Remix) [Spherax Recordings]
- Praveen Achary - Butterflies [Mirabilis Recordings]
- Praveen Achary - Pull My Legato [MakTub Music]
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