Where is the underground?

[Sin]

Sadly, as far as we try to drift from the main stream, even when motivating by our musical passion, one that is not appreciated by all... We still find that our UNDERGROUND shelter has been penetrated as well...

Where is the underground
The underground indifferent to all types of prejudice... one that can unite us all under our common interest.
Where are the intellectuals behind it?
Producers/Artists/Writers/Composers... They are the underground, their thoughts, their ideas, their music....

I posted a topic on this forum not while ago, attacking 3 radio stations for their commercialism, not directed to anyone... But to 3 of them...not attacking any one personaly and stating my own views...

To find my self one week later, nicely removed from the UNDERGROUND (b018) what a shame.
I hope this doesnt get deleted nor is too personal. As My question lies in WHERE IS THE UNDERGROUND?


This is a support group. SECRET and MEMBERS ARE CHOSEN SECRETLY AND PRIVATLY AND ARE ASKED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY PLEASE.

[DIONYSOS]

Are you saying you were BANNED from B018 for your views??? Because if that's the case then this is downright outrageous!!!

[TranceFusion]

If that's the case, "someone" at B018 must have a big ego, took things too personal, looks like he doesn't like to be criticized or something

[[IN]Head-Kay]

Promoters and their egotistical approach to mortals ... typical!

[Sin]

Yes, (Owner of mixfm) had asked b018 Owner to remove me from b0.
And they did very nicely by the way, the management had no idea what was going on, and knew I wasnt a trouble maker. The asked me escorted me out and gave me back my 25,000 .


When I came back, i saw on my facebook a msg from Mix fm event manager saying that im blacklisted from all mix fm events and b018 karantina.

all because of me calling our 3 radio station owners musically ignorant and bureaucrats. Oh and mainstream!

3ayb...
(FYI :someone has been deleting my topics since 4am...please see who, asi havent broken any law!!!)

[TranceFusion]

Ah shou hal freedom of speech ah!

Sin, unfortunately there's nothing you or we can do. Those who have the power (coming only from their positions) and the cash control everything... so ummm the way i see it at least is that unless you don't have a super wasta at B018 i don't think that you'll have the chance to come back there anytime soon

Hmmm back to the topic... although i'd really love to see a revival of the underground i doubt that it's gonna ever happen... money money moneeeeyyyyyyyyy!

[lebanese_raver]

First of all, BO sucks, i never liked this place, tfeh, but why banning a person from entering a club or even an event? chou hal maskhara, seriously, its really sad. Sin only attacked the promoters and others verbally, he never tried attacking them physically or whatsoever. On the other hand, you should have seen this coming[I insist that they do not have the right to do that, and it is a shame], we'll talk more about it when i see you at uni[I am Rami btw] i really hope this nonsense will end up really soon, and both parties will find way to make peace again.

[TranceFusion]

I don't like going to clubs here too but the reason that MixFM used to ban Sin is very simply a huge lie. Either they came up with an excuse or they used the criticism of Sin as a pretext that is not justified. Having a different point of view is NOT a valid reason to ban someone from a club. Valid reasons to ban can be that he's a troublemaker, or that he seriously threatened someone there or that he erased the place from the map like Rambo (:P). That behavior is pathetic and shows the immaturity in dealing with various situations here.

I hope for peace too but from time to time i see things pessimistically so i doubt that in this case there will be peace (reminder: Sin is NOT guilty).

[Johnny]

sa7 el nom!! this is their policy with anyone they don't like.... they ban them from events and all the associated places and if they needed to (in some certain cases) they start to scare you by threatening left and right welcome to the club man!

[swift]

That sucks man sorry we can't help but u best of luck

[samer]

This goes to everyone and especially Sin:
while we value freedom of speech on TH, personal attacks and fights are never welcomed in here. The first topic was removed last week because there was personal attacks toward the owners of mixfm. I would never accept to turn TH into a place of settling personal attacks and fights especially when such probs are taking a serious shape outside the virtual world. everyone is free to criticize and discuss anything but any individual who wishes his name not to be mentioned has the full right to request so and we're obliged to abide to his/her wishes.
on another note Sin, we really dont appreciate that you're basically using our medium as a platform to start your personal attacks to others, something that we certainly do not wish to take part in and will not have our site used as a tool to launch any form of personal fights. So for the last time I urge you not to use our site for your personal problems and vendettas while we appreciate any other input that can contribute the well being of the scene without holding us liable for any sort of problems ourselves and take any personal problems privately!

[Sin]

Samer, im not using you nor any website as a tool to fight anyone... nor i have attacked anyone, my topic was a journalistic topic attacking 3 radio stations so that i wouldnt be held responsible for being biased.

You have to understand, that these forums are the only way of communicating within the scene, this is not a tool to attack.. but just like my reputation has been constantly mocked on forums, i have the right to use that medium to say whats really going on... And when i dont, all im left with is the support of no one, and a bad reputation created through those mediums.

But I will go by the rules as stated.

[Genesis]

Wow... in a strange way, radio stations have got too much power in Lebanon.

As citizens, we've been too distracted with political turbulences in Lebanon over the last 35 years, that we just did not see this one coming.

I love Lebanon

[TranceFusion]

[Genesis]

So what are you going to do, Sin?
You just gona give up on B018? You don't want to stop this? Don't want to fight it?

If you had the chance to go back in time and stop Hitler, wouldn't you? I mean, I wouldn't because I personally think he's awesome but you would, right?
You're not gona stop playing, are you? When Hitler rose to power a lot of people stopped playing.
You know who those people were? The French. Are you French, Sin?
Voulez-vous coucher avec moi? Sin?